Tuesday, September 11, 2007

MMP FAQs

What is MMP?
MMP or mixed-member proportional representation is a political system used in places like New Zealand and Germany, where voters cast a two-part ballot, selecting both a preferred local candidate and a political party.

In Ontario's version, voters would choose "local" MPPs in the traditional way in 90 newly created, larger ridings instead of the existing 107 constituencies. With their vote for the party of their choice on the second part of the ballot, they would also select an additional 39 MPPs from lists of candidates compiled by the parties.

These "list" MPPs would be elected based on their parties' popular vote, to top up a party's tally of "local" MPPs and more accurately reflect results across the province. The Legislature would be expanded to 129 MPPs to accommodate the changes.

What are the advantages of MMP?
Smaller parties like the Greens, the Family Coalition, and the Freedom Party would have a chance at winning seats in the Legislature even if they cannot win a riding outright. Any party that wins at least 3 per cent of the popular vote will be awarded "list" seats. It would mean the end of majority governments when a party has won less than half the vote and prevent scenarios like former NDP premier Bob Rae's landslide victory in 1990 with 37.6 per cent of the vote.

What are the disadvantages of MMP?
Critics charge the 39 "list" MPPs would not be directly elected and the parties could use the lists as a sort of Senate to reward party apparatchiks, financial donors or others. As well, it would likely spell the end of decisive, majority governments since no party has won 50 per cent or more of the popular vote since 1937. Although a party could still win a majority of seats with less than 50% of the vote.

Will these members be chosen from the party faithful, or will they have to be nominated and campaign for the opportunity to be placed on a party list?
How each party selects its list remains to be seen. Even in the current system, the parties have different nominating systems: Premier Dalton McGuinty is allowed to appoint five candidates of the Liberals' 107 without any competitive nomination process, while Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory's party doesn't allow for any appointed candidates. How each party selects its list candidates would likely up to the party. Some may opt for an open, all-party vote, while others may just have party insiders choose the list.

Won't parties use the lists to reward party insiders, donors or those that want to avoid a direct election because of something in their past?
The critics of this system suggest that party hacks will be awarded seats and the voters will have no say. This is not how it has worked in New Zealand, Germany and other countries that have adopted these reforms. Parties will be careful who they put on the lists because because the media, interest groups and the general public will scrutinize these lists carefully. A contentious names will likely harm the party vote. In fact all seats in the Israeli parliament are filled from lists. There are no directly elected representatives.

How is MMP more democratic when there are representatives in the Legislature who will not be elected directly by the voters?
The current system is very much dominated by 2 parties that don't look very much different. The portion of the public that does not support these parties are essentially disenfranchised by our electoral system. Currently, a party that is supported by 10% of voters might not get any seats while a party with 40% support can get 70% of the seats. Under the MMP, parties like the Green Party will likely win some seats and represent the views of their constituents in the Legislature. That strengthens our democratic system.

5 comments:

Garry J. Wise, Wise Law Office, Toronto said...

Question: what happens under MMP id a party's proportion of elected, local members drastically EXCEEDS its proportionate "party vote." e.g 75 Liberal local members are elected, but the party only gets 30% of the party vote.

The proposal talks about top-up, but what about te opposite scenarion? Is there a "bottonm-down" provision (seems like that would be very undemocratic)

I can theoretically envision this happening where a party leader is very unpopular, but policy-wise and locally, the party is in synch with voters' aspirations.

Any ideas on this?

(And PS - thanks for educating us about this referendum).

Pseudonym said...

There is only a top up. Any party that can collect 3% of the party vote will get at least one seat. That is in addition to the riding seats that a party wins. So seats are still alocated to the winners or each riding but there will be a second part of the ballot where you vote for the party you support. Majority governments will still exist (it's incorrect to assume you will need 50% of the vote for a majority) but you won't get scenarios where 42% of the popular vote will translate into 75% of the seats.

Wayneon said...

Once a party has won a riding, they have won that riding, and it will not be taken away.

It is entirely possible that the largest party will win more ridings than the total number of seats they are entitled to. That is because there are only 30% list seats in this proposal. New Zealand has 40%. Germany has 50% list seats. The Citizens' Assembly did not want to increase the size of the Legislature too much.

If this happens, then there will not be enough list seats to compensate the other parties. Germany simply increases the number of seats as needed to get the right proportions. The Citizens' Assembly considered this, but they wanted to keep it simple.

So, this MMP proposal is not a perfect system, but there is no perfect voting system. It has been mathematically proven.

What is clear is that MMP is vastly better than what we have now.

Unusual Astronomer said...

I just found this blog on google and have to add my say:

NDP got 18% of the vote and got 37 seats.
BQ got 10% of the vote and got 50 seats.
The Greens got 7% of the vote and got zero seats.

As a New Zealander living in Canada, it seems pretty obvious that we need MMP here, because FPP is clearly unfair and unrepresentative. The main difficulty is that it would require a change in the constitution to allow MMP, because the number of seats each province gets is set in there...

carpentaro said...

MMP is a good idea gone BAD. It is supossed to be more democratic, yet is a bueaucratic "appointment" scheme with MPs selected off of a list. In New Zealand, the unelected and unaccountable "list" MPs have been responsible for some of the worst legislation in recent history. The UK has just gone through an election where an alternate electoral system, AV. This was voted down by a 60/40 margin. Don't make the same mistake that NZ has made. Here in NZ, MMP is up for review this election cycle, if MMP was so good, why would it need to be reviewed, and voted on whether to keep or not. Don't go the MMP route, it's a bad system.